Showing posts with label conlang. Show all posts
Showing posts with label conlang. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 5, 2016

Sabldiri - A Language from Reddit Robbin


Beyond the basic idea and amazing stories that are Robin, there's something else amazing that has emerged out of the chat.

A language!

In soKukunelits, the current largest chat, there's a group of people that started making a language along their way up the chats. What's amazing is these people aren't traditional conlangers really, just random people who thought it'd be cool to make a language.

It's a pretty basic language at the moment, but there is a pretty comprehensive Google Doc that goes over the basics. Even if it's still in its infancy, the language is fun, and the people are all about having fun with it, which just makes the whole thing great.

The language all and all is pretty similar to English, but it had to be in order to be appealing to the most people. That said, I do think it's different enough to still be fun, especially when you think that it was more or less spontaneously created.

More importantly, people are actually using Sabldiri!

Whether it carries any momentum past the end of Robin is yet to be seen, but it has fun potential.

Jid Grow Foog Edias!

Tuesday, March 27, 2012

Kolorita vorto de la tago 12


La traduction en français vient d'ici (la tradukaĵo en la franca estas tie):
Et celle en chinois d'ici (kaj tiu ĉi en la ĉina tie):


Verda:    Nomo
Ruĝa:      Verbo 
Blua:      "Eta vorto" 
Oranĝa:  Numero 
Bruna:    Adjektivo 
Griza:     "Tablvorto"
Nigra:     Pronomo
 
Viola:     Adverbo

PROKLAMI
PROCLAMER
声明
shēng míng
tok soli, spik cila’



Oficiale kaj publike anonci: 

Annoncer officiellement et publiquement:
正式公开宣布
zhèng shì gōng kāi xuān bù.
Lismi an poplik la spik.



Oni
proklamis lin reĝo.
On l'
a proclamé roi.
大家声明他是国王.
Dà jiā shēng míng tā shì guó wáng.
Ian li spik cila’ ka ona li ma lava (lico).



Hieraŭ estis proklamitaj la rezultoj de voĉdonado. 

Hier ont été proclamés les résultats de l'élection.
昨天公布了投票的结果.
zuó tiān gōng bù le tóu piào de jié guǒ.
Asti la int spik i ansa pi pili’an.


Mi
ne atendis la proklamon de milito.
Je
n'ai pas attendu la proclamation de (la) guerre. 

我不等到宣战.
wǒ bù děng dào xuān zhàn.
Mi avin ala i tok soli pi milit.



Jam pasis multaj jarcentoj de la proklamado de nia ŝtato. 

De nombreux siècles se sont déjà écoulés depuis la proclamation de notre Etat.
我国立国已有好几世纪.
wǒ guó lì guó yǐ yǒu hǎo jǐ shì jì.
Apat moti la tok soli pi ma mi mi li int tava.

Thursday, September 8, 2011

Conlangs

So, in the past few months, I dove into the world of constructed languages, or conlangs. I had no experience with them before really, and didn't know what to expect. The only conlang I had only heard about before was Esperanto, so instead of taking that obvious route, I went for a more obscure conlang: toki pona.

Now, after having spent some time being as fluent as is needed for this minimalist language, there are some strange encounters and feeling I had on the community as a whole. I'll preface this all by saying that a lot of the people involved in conlang are incredibly smart people who deserve the utmost respect. I will however try to be honest about my rather blind swim through the pond of a conlang.

My first reactions were that there is nothing to do. So, in searching for a place to have random conversations in this new language, I found a few hubs, and reads a few years worth of backlogs. Most of the time, no one seems to agree on much. There is also a godlike reverence for the creator of a conlang, which caught me off guard. That is to say, I care as much about Zamenhof as I do Shakespeare, which is to say, not at all (in all truth). It reminds me very much of the incredibly nerdy arguments I've read on reddit about Star Wars canon. Which brings me to another point, I think by the nature of what a conlang is, it attracts many nerdy people. Nerds are not known for their sociability, and I believe this point comes through very strongly in the world of conlangs. At least on a surface level.

Now, I will go back and say that there are plenty of nice people in these communities, and I understand why some of the things are the way they are, but as an outsider, it was bizarre. I also don't think this kind of thing is limited to nerds or nerdy people either. The other thing I began to think about was just another inherent quality of Conlangs. That being that there are usually no native speakers.

Why is this important?

Well, from my experience in learning natural languages, there's a lot of competition between second language learners and a lot of trying to outdue your fellow classmates. With no native spekars to hang out with, you're left to always interact with the competitive classmates.

With toki pona, this is all especially magnified, because it's not really finished. So, everyone is arguing over standards to complete the language. That and the small size of the community of course.

However, not to be putting everything so negatively, I want to say that the other important thing to remember is that it's a hobby. I'm guilty of taking this hobby too seriously, and when that happens you get let down and pushed around by something that feels like should be different. The issue is, however, that it's more like a code than a language then. I think, for the uninitiated, it's difficult to fit in how a conlang should be used, and where the community stands on things.

There are other people smarter than I am figuring these things out though. I just wanted to provide a kind of window into my breif experience in the conlang world.